14 October 2010

Bob Haldeman Interview (14)


GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT OF OPERATIONS, 1952 

Learning Diplomacy 

Haldeman: All of the departments were managed by Mr. Turton's old cronies 
and buddies, and each man had a little empire. They just didn't 
think anything about this young whippersnapper who was coming 
around. I had to sit for an hour in the mill superintendent's 
office, waiting for him to receive me and then sit back and say, 
"What do you want to know?" I remembered Machiavelli's book and 
the rule that the new prince always decimates the other princes 
and puts his own people in. So I had to start, bit by bit, to 
assume management. I was the general superintendent, and these 
fellows had to report to me. It took an awful lot of diplomacy. 

Swent: Had you had any formal training in management? 

Haldeman: In those days management was not what you call management 
today.. . Harvard Business School and management classes in 
universities. No, I learned engineering, mining, geology, and 
metallurgy, period. I never had a course in management, much 
less a course in politics, an area I will get into. 

Swent: Had management even been mentioned as something that you would 
need to be aware of? 

Haldeman: In the fifties, Harvard Business School suddenly became 
important in all of the business world. Prior to that, 
businesses were run by old-time managers. It was only in the 
forties and the fifties there was a sudden awareness of 
industrial engineering and the likes that became a tool of 
management . Then came all of these management training schools . 
This all started about the time I was stepping out of the mine 
and into management with absolutely no background in it. Nobody 
else did in the company. [laughter] 
 

Swent: You were so isolated up there, you probably weren't aware of the 
domestic politics either. 

Haldeman: No, absolutely not. I was isolated in the mine, with American 
town sites, American management, and 1 wasn't aware of any 
politics going on. 



View of Sewell from below 
(click for larger image)
 
General Manager Franklin D. Turton 

Haldeman: About this time Mr. Turton passed away. He died at Coya, the 
town where the management office was. Mr. Michaelson had to go 
to Santiago to take the head job. Turton never wanted to. 
Stannard tried to get Turton to go to Santiago, and he built a 
building there with an apartment in it. But Turton had a 
beautiful house in Coya with a big garden and fruit trees. He 
was out at the mine, and he said, "I'll go to Santiago over my 
dead body," and that's exactly how he went. He died of a heart 
attack while he was out in the garden, propping up his fruit 
trees after a windstorm. 

Turton was a character and a wonderful man. He built up 
the company. We used to have nail factories and made our own 
stationery and form books and everything, because you had to be 
independent to do it. Sometimes it took eighteen days by boat 
to get instructions down from the United States. You can't run 
a company that way. Sometimes the telephone didn't work; . 
sometimes the manager had so many problems that he didn't answer 
the telephone. [laughs] There wasn't any fax or anything like 
that. Those were different days. We even made our own coffins. 
You had to be self-contained. 
 
 



Area map showing Sewell   (click for larger image)


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Sewell night scene

Charles D. Michaelson Haldeman: It's now 1951, and Mr. Milliken hires a Mr. Charles D. Michaelson, who had experience in Bolivia with the Patino group and in Cuba with a nickel company. He sent Mr. Michaelson down to Chile to train to take over Mr. Turton's job. Mr. Turton also was about the age of Mr. Stannard, and Turton had never really prepared any number two man young enough. He grew up with his cronies and stuck with them. He was the old, old school: "That's the way we do it," and "the rock in the box" thing. Forming management groups ten years apart for succession was something he didn't bother with; that wasn't management at that time. Mr. Michaelson came down here, and I think his job was general superintendent of operations, or about at that level. He saw that there was nobody below him, so he started to look around the company. After he got oriented, he started inviting me to have a martini in the afternoon and asked me about the mine. The next thing you know, I was called in by the manager. I was told after wards that Mr. Turton had also put an eye on me. He said he liked me because 1 also came from the mine; he was a mine man, and that had a lot to do with it, then. I was taken out of the mine as number two to Mr. Casarotto and put in as assistant to the general manager, in training. Well, that was a title that was created, and I was working under Michaelson 's wing. In 1952, after four or five months of training, they named me as general superintendent of operations and Mr. Michaelson as assistant general manager. I had to go around and learn what the smelter was like, and the shops and the railroad and so on. 
 


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Salvadore Allende rallying the masses


Haldeman: Let me go into the political side of the story. About this
time, I'm getting up in management, and I'm becoming very aware
that there is a growing movement in Chile to say that the copper
should be in the hands of the Chileans. This is a backlash
imitating what was going on over Latin American oil in Brazil
with Petroleo Es Nosso and in Venezuela. The oil companies were
trying to negotiate a graceful exit. This was the anti- capitalistic theme,








and that's when the left-wing parties,the socialists, and the communists started to become very important.


They believed that the countries should own their own natural resources. This is going to be threading through the story as we go along. It began to have more and more effect on mining and my involvement in the company.


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ASSISTANT GENERAL MINE FOREMAN, 1951 
Far-Reachine Effects of Plane Crash in Canada. 1949 

Swent: You were assistant mine foreman in 1951. 

Haldeman: Yes, I was being considered for that. In 1950 comes another act 
of the fairy of fate. Kennecott's Mr. Stannard, who I met when 
I first came down, plus two of the key executives were getting 
along in years, and the board of directors said, "You have to 
replace yourselves with younger people." 

Haldeman: At that time Kennecott had acquired controlling interest in a 
mining company in Canada, Quebec Iron and Titanium. 

Swent: You were working for Braden Copper Company, which was a 
subsidiary of Kennecott, so it was natural for them to turn 
here--? 

Haldeman: Yes. They had a reorganization policy that the board had 
insisted on that they get some younger people in the top 
positions. The incoming executives, with the outgoing 
executives, took a plane to fly up to Canada. On that plane was 
the wife of a postman who was fed up with her, and she was going 
up to visit some relatives in Quebec. He put a bomb in her 
suitcase. 

Swent: Oh, I didn't know that caused the crash. 

Haldeman: They all went down--the wife and all of the outgoing and 
incoming executives; Stannard was one of the outgoing and Frost 
was one of the incoming. Kennecott was absolutely decimated; 
they had nobody to run it. 




Swent: To this day most mining companies don't send all of their 
executives in the same plane. 
 
Haldeman: That's exactly the reason; that started the policy.
 
Swent: It was a terrible thing. When was that? 
Haldeman: It was 1950. 

Charles Cox was taken from a steel company; I don't know if 
it was U.S. Steel or not. He was a financial man, and he was 
brought in as president. I think a year later he picked up 
Frank Milliken from New Jersey Zinc and put him in as number two 
man. 



Winter Scenes from the CRNW Railway

Kennecott in winter

Above:  Kennecott, CRNW MP 195  in the 1930s
Below:  Digging out the passenger train near MP 34-40, Hot Cake channel area of the Copper River delta  (click either image for much-larger view)

diggout out

Below: A rotary snow plow emerges from the snowshed at  CRNW MP 54 along the Abercrombie Rapids channel. (click for much-larger view)

rotary at snowshed 54

The CRD Five-Year Expansion Plan

The proposed Copper Rail Depot in Ron's Five-Year Plan compared to The Brick, Roslyn, Washington, scene of the outdoor filming of Northern Exposure--a central theme of the large-scale model railroad @ the CRD: 
It is only vaguely similar, but THAT is close enough. The tourists probably won't know the difference. 

comparison

13 October 2010

Bob Haldeman Interview (10)

We go along from '44 to '47 with another contract, and from 
'47 to '50 there's another contract. I had a third boy then, 

and by that time I was just going up to the top job in the mine. 
I was a mine foreman, and from there I was assistant general 
mine foreman in 1951. That would be number two to Mr. 
Casarotto. 

General Mine Foreman Pedro Casarotto 

Haldeman: Mr. Casarotto was an Italian immigrant who went from Italy to 
the United States, California, and started to work in the Guasti 
vineyards. I think it was in the late twenties that the IWW 
[Industrial Workers of the World] was formedthe wobblies. 
They were called communists, and they formed unions. They had 
Pinkertons breaking them up. 


Mr. Casarotto, who had never gone beyond the third grade, 
was involved in this. The police were after him, so he went 
down to San Pedro, California, and got a job on a nitrate ship 
returning to Chile. When he got to Valparaiso, he jumped ship, 
went out to Rancagua, and hired on as a laborer- -peon, they 
called them at that time at the Teniente Mine. He had a brass 
tag, and that was his work number. He went up to the mine, and 
in those years the mine was a good place to run away from 
justice. Not too many questions were asked, just to get guys to 
work in the mine, which was a hard place. 



Casarotto started out as a laborer, then became a 
timberman, a miner, and worked up to become a straw boss. He 
was outstanding; he was a leader--a big, husky Italian. I'm not 
sure of the year, but in about 1935 they needed a general mine 
foreman. From mine foreman, the next step up was in the 
superintendency, and usually that job had been filled by 
Americans. The mine superintendent at that time didn't feel 
that he had any Americans qualified below that level in the 
mine, and Casarotto was a real good, reliable fellow, a reliable 
worker, and intelligent with his limited education. 



So the mine foreman called the general manager, Mr. Turton, 
and said, "I have a fellow who is Chilean of Italian descent, 
and I want to put him in as a general mine foreman." 




Sewell in 1930
Sewell 1930
Turton said, "I'm going up to the mine next week. Wait; I want to talk to the guy first." When Turton got up there, they called in Mr. Casarotto. Turton had heard of him, and he talked to him and asked, "Do you think you can handle the job? What's your name?" He said, "My name is Inocencio Casarotto." Turton, who grew up in the mine, a blustery, great big fellow, macho and all that, said, "Inocencio? I would never have a general mine foreman by the name of Inocencio. From here on out, you are Pedro Casarotto." [laughter] And until the day he died, he was Pedro Casarotto. Pete was a wonderful educator or trainer of young mining engineers. He knew how to really get the maximum out of you- -give you real difficult tasks, delegate you all the authority, and allow you to make a couple of mistakes. He trained so many of the people in the industry. That's Mr. Casarotto, and he is really the fellow to whom I owe my understanding and knowledge of underground block-caving mining. Pete really pulled me out of the ranks. He took a shine to me and pushed me up and up. Sometimes he would jump me two positions to replace a man and left me alone. It certainly develops you when you are fully responsible for something like that. [laughs] You're sharp. In those days there were thousands of timbersets and hundreds of ore passes in places all over the mine. All of us working in the mine at that time developed a memory of the numbers of these sets, the pieces of wood in each set and in between the sets, the drift numbers, and so on. I could sit down and see the mine in my mind at night. Somebody would call me up, and I could get a visual picture of that set or two sets, in between them, how many stringers there were up above, and which ones were broken. It was a tremendous teacher. All the rest of it we learned that way. It was a wonderful training school.



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Swent: I'd like to ask you a little about your wife's adjustment to 
Chile. Did she learn Spanish? 

Haldeman: Yes, she learned Spanish. Not completely, but she learned it 
and got along real well. 

Swent: She enjoyed it here? 

Haldeman: She was a very adaptable young lady here. She fit in well. 
Finally, when I got to be a general manager, I was very proud to 
have her as the general manager's wife. 

Swent: It must have been quite an adjustment for her. 

Haldeman: No, she enjoyed it. She is very adaptable. A very nice girl, 
and we got along fine. During my first contract from '44 to 
'47, we had two boys, and then one was born in '49. 

Swent: Were they all born here? 
Haldeman: In Sewell, in the mine hospital. 

During our first year of marriage, in 1945, we had the mine 
fire.
 
 
 

 

The Mine Fire. June 1945 


Swent : 
It was in June of '45, wasn't it? 


Haldeman: Yes, and you have interviewed Mr. Reed on that and got all the 
particulars.  

Well, it just so happened that Mr. Burney Egemo was one of 
the three American bosses who died in the fire. Because of his 
outstanding ways, he was a leader, and management had its eyes 
on him as going up to superintendent. 

Swent: He was captain of the football team in Lead High School when I 
was in high school; I was behind him, and his sister was in my 
class. We all idolized Burney. He was a leader. 

Haldeman: Yes, he was; a very nice fellow. He married a Chilean girl, 

Sadie Eichelbosch, a very charming person. Burney had trouble 
with his teeth; I think they called it pyorrhea at that time. 
The dentist decided he had to have them out; it was about the 
third time he was having some out. He didn't want to miss 
shift, and he got in and was on the level where the majority of 
the people were killed. Had he not gone in, I would have had to 
replace him. I was on the level up above, and we walked out of 
the mine with a cloud of smoke behind us about twenty meters, 
and the rats running alongside in the drainage ditch, scurrying 
out. 

The Sewell gymnasium


 
That was a tragedy,and 364 people died in the fire, fate again came into my life: I didn't have any apparent competition for going up in the mine organization.



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Swent: The planes didn't fly at night, did they? 

Haldeman: No, it was all day flights, because it was instrumentation 
landing; that was way back in the square wheel days. [laughs] 
They calculated that it took three days to get here. On the 
second day, the mine superintendent called me up and said, 
"We're going to go down and meet our wives, so I have my special 
rail car here." He had a special management car. 



The Sewell General Manager's Rail Vehicle:




He said, 
"I want you to be at the station this afternoon at a certain time, 
and we're going to go down. I have hotel rooms at the Crillon." 
Okay. 



So we went down. This man, Jack Withers, was a real nice 
guy and a good miner, but he had a problem with the bottle; he 
drank an awful lot. Most of the people at that time in the 
mining business were pretty heavy drinkers. We got down to 
Santiago, and the next daythe third dayI got a call from him 
at seven in the morning at the hotel. He said, "You call the 
airline and find out when the girls are arriving." So I tried 
to get through to the airline. It so happened that the airline 
didn't answer me until just about one o'clock, and they told me 
they had been off-loaded in Panama. They weren't exactly sure 
which plane they were scheduled out on. 



"All right," he said, "if that's the case, let's go over to 
the restaurant on the central plaza, the Bahia, and we'll have 
lunch. It's the best restaurant in town, and I'll buy." Well, 
with the cocktails and the like, I had to take him home in a 
taxi and put him in bed. This happened five days in a row. The 
girls were off-loaded later on in Quito, and then in Lima. 



Finally they arrived. Then we went up to Sewell and got 
married by the Registro Civil, the civil registry a legal 
marriage, not a church wedding. Then we went down to Vina. So 
for two weeks' honeymoon, I spent half of it with the mine 
superintendent and the other half with my wife. [laughter] 



 
The American compound at Sewell in 1967 shortly before the area was razed
american sector sewell
Haldeman: We went up to the house, and I had bought a bed from a family who was leaving and had stored it in the mine staff house basement. I told the mozos there- -the boys who worked in the place- -to have it put in my house to be ready when I came. We walked into the house, and I went into the bedroom, showing my wife around. It was a very small house; they're all the same size and shape, painted the same colors, and they had some company furniture that was Just as rustic as it could be. It was nice and well done, but it was very functional. Here's the bed, flat on the floor, no legs on it, no bedstead. My friends in the mine staff house had gone away with them. [laughs] I had a trunk that I had bought, and that trunk was in the living room. On top of it 1 had a lamp. I had choapinos, little throw rugs made by the Indians. That's how we set up our house. I called up the mine timber- framing shed. All the mine timbers were 12 inches by 12 inches by 6, 7, or 8 feet long. I had them cut out four blocks a foot long and bring them down to the house, and that raised the bed for a month until I could get the guys to give me the rest of the bed. [laughter] Swent: This was one of those tricks they played on honeymooners? Haldeman: Yes. Little bit by little bit my job was a little better, a higher boss.


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She didn't answer. I kept asking, "What's the matter? Is 
the line cut? Operator! Operator!" 
Finally she said, "I'm still here, but I'm crying." 
I said, "Well, what's the answer?" 
She said, "Yes." So she came down. 
You got married down here and stayed here? 

Haldeman: Yes. We moved up to the house up in the town site. 

Swent: Did you have the two-months honeymoon? 

Haldeman: No, two weeks. I was supposed to have a two-week honeymoon. My 
wife went across the states by train and went to the New York 
office. It so happened that the mine superintendent's wife was 
coming down at the same time, so they arranged for the two 
ladies to travel together, by air this time. It was Panagra at 
that time, a Pan-American Grace line. They were DC-3s, and in 
1944 passengers were subject to off-loading because of war 
priorities. 



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I'm surprised that when you fell you didn't regain consciousness
when you got better air. 

Haldeman: Well, I knocked myself out; my head was banging all over. I had 
bruises and scratches on my head. I looked horrible; I have a 
picture somewhere. 


The hospital at Sewell
sewell hospital
Now comes 1944 and the end of my contract. Were you already married by the time this accident happened? Haldeman: No, I was single. Comes '44, and now I'm a foreman getting $528 a month. (His starting salary was $200. --RS)  Wow! And of course promotions and raises came, just to keep the boys happy, because we had to get our quota of copper out. Extending the Contract and Getting Married. 1944 Haldeman: I had had enough of it. I went in to the mine foreman, Mr. Casarotto (Mr. Casarotto is another story; he's quite a man, I'll tell you), and told him I was riot going to renew my contract. "Well," he said, "Let's talk, Bob. Now, what's your problem?" I said, "No problem, but I've just had enough. I would like to go home . " "What are you going to do, get a job?" "I'll find a job." "Do you have a girlfriend back there?" He knew. I said, "Yes. I'll go back now and marry her." "Well," he said, "look. If that's the problem, we'll bring her down for you, and we'll give you a two-week honeymoon in Vina. You can stay on, and we'll give you a houseone of those houses up there [points to photo] . How would you like that? Would you sign another contract on that basis? Furthermore, I'm sure you're going to get another promotion, for your salary to go up to $650 a month." Sewell miners and an Americano in 1926:
workers at sewell
Who am I to turn down a wonderful offer? [laughs] Here I am, still in Chile. I called up my bride-to-be, Doris, whom I had only known for three or four weeks before I left for Chile. I met her on the Russian River, and we corresponded. It took me three days to get the call through, because in those days part of the lines were physical lines--copper and steel wire on the surface; we didn't have any satellite. I finally got through to her, and I said, "Would you like to come to Chile and marry me? They've offered me another contract."



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A Nearly Fatal Accident in Bad Air 



Haldeman: From "41 to '44 I started working hard. In 1942 I almost 
disappeared from the map. I was going up to check a chimney 
raise we were running about thirty meters up; they call them a 
zigzag. It's about a 50 angle, and you go zigzagging up. Then 
you ran a drift thirty meters high into an area of a 
block-caving that had failed to cave. It was all hung up in 
there, and we wanted to find out what was wrong with it. The 
night shift put in the log book that they had broken through to 
this cave area. The rule was that the shift boss had to go 
ahead of everybody and make sure the working areas were safe. 

So I took my number one head straw boss--capataz, they call 
the man the two of us went up this ore pass hand-over-hand, on 
a big one-and-a-half -inch manila rope. We always carried 
carbide lamps, because of possible oxygen deficiency. This ore 
body was made up of copper minerals and had a lot of pyrite in 
it. Pyrite oxidizes when it's exposed to air and consumes 
oxygen. You'll get in places where there is oxygen deficiency, 
and your lamp will go out. Going from 16 to about 12 percent 
oxygen, the flame grows real large, and then pffft. That's the 
point where you have to get back where you were; otherwise you 
will faint. And that's why the bosses always wore .carbide 
lamps . 

I was shinnying up this thing, with my friend behind me. I 
can remember that my flame all of a sudden went pffft, and I can 
remember my head going down gently on the floor of the drift. I 
fainted and tumbled back into his arms. He went to grab me, and 
I was so heavy with only one hand [free], both us went 
head-over-heels, bouncing down this thing. 



The El Teniente layout (cross section)

At the bottom, when we get out on this drift, there's a 60-meter open ore pass below us that has two track rails across it, where they have little one-ton cars that they can push back and forth. I didn't quite get there. There were what they call spuds, two- inch steel about twenty- inches long. You drill a hole in the rock and put two of these in with a board on top, and you can set the rig up to drill the next blast. They keep carrying this, relaying it up. One of these spuds was there, and it happened to catch me on my shoulder- -here, you can see. Swent: You still have the scar. Haldeman: I hung up there, and my hard hat continued down. There happened to be a workman passing by that ore pass and that drift, and my hard hat went "tic, tic, tic," down with my lamp. Well, he knew something was wrong, and he went and got another boss. They came and saw me up there, and my friend was hung up, too; he was unconscious. They pulled us out and got us over to the tool shed- -they call it a bodega , an underground tool shed- -where they had first aid and a stretcher. First aid was like a bandage. 1 lay there in pain. What the fellows had done was to put a bandage around me like this [demonstrates], and of course they pushed the bone in. When you have a broken collar bone, you're supposed to pull back and get the bones away. 1 was a horrible mess; my eye was all gouged, and 1 was scratched up all over. 1 felt like somebody had been beating me to death. The mine superintendent finally showed up, and he said, "Get this bandage off," and he pulled my shoulders back and tied them back, it was a wonderful relief. They took me and my friend, my capataz, out to the hospital. I had a fractured collar bone, and they set it. 1 had a gouge out of my right upper eyelid, and for almost half a year I couldn't sleep; I could see the light out of that little hole. I was out of service for about a month and a half. We were so very close to being killed. My friend, the capataz, in his fall somehow completely tore his tendons on his right arm and shoulder. They couldn't repair them, so he lost the use of his right arm. But he was alive. That was in '42.


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World War II; Copper Mining as Part of the War Effort 

Haldeman: One of the strange things about fate- -here fate comes in. In 
September of '41 I took the job, Pearl Harbor came in December, 
and immediately after that Guam and the Philippines were 
invaded . (Haldeman had turned down job offers at both Guam and the Philippines in order to accept the one in Chile --RS)

Swent: You were kind of glad you weren't there. 

Haldeman: Yes. Fate also took a little bit of a role in that 1941 period, 
because when I went to work in San Francisco I was also 
registered in the draft. I was 1-A, and I said I wanted to be a 
pilot. They had this program they were starting with 50,000 
planes and 50,000 pilots a year, when they were starting to 
mass-produce airplanes. I went up to Hamilton Field, north of 
San Francisco, and passed the examination there to become a 
pilot, a lieutenant in the air corps. I was on a standby basis 
there. 


One of the many long concrete staircases at Sewell: 




In 1942, I got a call to report to Hamilton Field, that I 
had been accepted in the air corps, and they finally had enough 
airplanes. I took this letter over to my boss at the mine, he 
gave it to the mine superintendent, who gave it to the general 
manager, who sent it up to the New York office, who had at that 
time declared to the government that they needed so many people 
down there to get the copper as part of the war effort. So 
myself, along with the other boys, were classified as 4-F and 
frozen in our jobs. The fickle finger of fate. 


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Swent: Where were you in the mine at that time? 


Haldeman: We were way back in there, just like the square wheel that is 
undercutting directly on top of timber, heavy ground. We had 
quite a big labor force, about three or four thousand 
underground alone. After we modified the mining system, putting 
a solid block in between the undercut level and the draw level 
and ran finger raises up through it, a different type of mining, 
we cut the labor force down to maybe a thousand or nine hundred, 
about 25 percent of what it had been before. There you didn't 
have all of this heavy timberwork and maintenance and the likes. 


Swent: What kind of machinery were you using? 

Haldeman: Oh, just standard stopers. They didn't even have the jacklegs 
then; you just took the hand drills and held them up yourself. 
The jackleg came in later on. 

Swent: The equipment was mechanized, though? 


Haldeman: Oh, yes, we had air and all that. But ventilation-forget it. 
When I was in there they had dry drilling in half of the mine, 
and I have partial silicosis from that. We were a highly 
silicotic mine, if you want to put it that way. As time went on 
we had modern safety measures put in. The Chilean legislators 
started putting heavy fines on industrial illnesses, sicknesses, 
and diseases, including silicosis, and management perked up and 
started to clean up the air. 


Sewell in winter: 

Swent: When did that happen? Haldeman: It was gradual, and maybe the mine fire precipitated a lot of it.

Swent: Ventilation particularly. 

Haldeman: Yes, absolutely. That's about the time it started to take off. 

I would say we went to wet drilling at the time of the mine fire. 


Swent: That was in 1945. 

Haldeman: Yes



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The Three-Year Contract 

Haldeman: I stayed there for three years; I had a three-year contract. 

Swent: That was the standard contract, wasn't it? 

Haldeman: Right. 

Swent: They paid your way if you stayed the full three years? 

Haldeman: No. They retained 20 percent of your salary every month for the 
first eighteen months, in case you quit early, and that 
compensated them. Then you had to pay your way back. 
My first three months in the mine and this was standard 
with all the foreign shift bosses, gringos-- 

winter scene at Sewell:


The Practicante. or Training Period Swent: There was three months of the practicante period? Haldeman: Yes. That meant you were assigned to be a timberman's helper, a miner's helper, and a trackman and a pipeman's helper, knowing no Spanish whatsoever. All the workers there were on piece rate; every bit of work that you did was measured, and you got paid for that. You could make 50 to 100 percent over your card rate with a good helper. Of course, when they got the gringo, who couldn't even understand the orders they would give, they were very disgruntled and unhappy, because they were just able to get their basic card rate; they couldn't get any bonuses on contract. It was hard work. The shifts were an hour in, an hour out, and eight on--ten hours, and you came out just completely pooped. I was staying in the mine staff house with twenty other American and Canadian shift bosses. The food was Chilean style, with a lot of cooking oil in it. The eggs and bacon in the morning were not like my mother made. Instead of an egg cooked in butter and a strip of well-cooked bacon, it was served in a little aluminum dish that they called a paila, it was floating in oil, and the bacon was half-done. Of course, my stomach didn't appreciate this, and for three months I was just miserable. All of us had it. We took in lunch, which was an empty gin or rum bottle full of chocolate milk, an orange, and a ham sandwich on Chilean bread--hallulla, the heavy, unleavened bread. It felt like I had a brick in me every day, and with the hard work it was miserable, no question about it. But it was a wonderful way to learn what an eight-hour shift meant- -how much you could do and how hard the work was because after three months you started out as the boss. You had to be a fair judge of whether the fellow did a good shift or whether he was knocking off or trying to get out of doing hard work on a day's labor. Swent: You really knew. Haldeman: You absolutely knew. After being a timberman's helper, then I became a timberman and had a Chilean helper. During the lunch hour in the mine, you could sit down right where you were working, in the drift or wherever it was. The Chileans wanted to know how you say all the dirty words in English, and they would teach me the words in Spanish. [laughs] Of course, after six months my Spanish was becoming fluent, but, oh, I couldn't use it in social circles; it was really rough language. The Chilean worker was very respectful of the gringo. They would have fights among themselves. They had knives, and they would roll their jacket around their left arm, take their knife, and hack at each other. But I could walk in between them, push them apart, and say, "No. If you get cut up in the mine, they're going to fire you. Don't lose your jobs." They'd never touch me. We gringos were always "Mister"--"Mister Haldeman." [pronounced "meestur"] A high respect for the gringos, so it was very nice. Of course, the nicer you treated them you had to be very stern with them, but if you treated them fairly, they would work their hearts out for you. I just have to take my hat off to them. Aerail Tram and Train at Sewell:

They're very ingenious people, too. They Just never had the tools or the education to be smart workers- -which they are now. They're coming around; the educational system has improved in Chile.

Bob Haldeman Interview (1)

From an interview with Bob Haldeman, the new junior engineer at the Braden Mines (1941)
Swent : 

How did you get up to the mine? 
Haldeman: I took the train to Santiago, and I met the manager, Charlie 
Palmer, and said hello to him. He got me on the train to 
Rancagua. 

Swent: What kind of train was it?
Haldeman: A regular train. In Rancagua I had to wait a while and catch 
the rail car. It was a narrow gauge railroad built in 1915 or 
1920. It was seventy kilometers from Rancagua up to the mine in 
Sewell. If the railroad had one, it had a thousand curves in 
it, and the train had one of these old side-drive logging steam 
engines. They bought them from Washington and Oregon, took them 
down to Chile, and put little cars on them. It was like a 
Toonerville trolley, with seven or eight cars. They'd slowly go 
uphill. 



The train took four and a half hours, and the rail car was 
nothing but a truck chassis with a Ford motor in the front, and 
then they put steel wheels on it that they made in the foundry 
there. Then they put a canopy cover on the thing with isinglass 
windows that you took off in the summer and put on in the 
winter. It had five rows of seats of four each and a driver. 
That took two hours. 
So I got up to Sewell late in the afternoon. 

Swent: How high is Sewell? 
 
Haldeman: Seven thousand feet. I walked from the railroad terminal to the
mine staff house, which was near the mine portal track grade at Sewell: 




Index to Haldeman Interview 

Underground railway at the Braden copper mine:



image from the Braden El Teniente copper mine  in 1941 (click either image for larger version)
underground RR


Compare the Braden 22-ton battery locomotive with the 4-ton Westinghouse used at the Kennecott-Alaska mine below: (click either image for larger view)


4-T Westinghouse





report

Geology of the Braden Mines:

Here is a report explaining the basic geology of the Braden mines and something about the mine layout as well. I emphasized certain points of particular interest with yellow highlight: 

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Braden geology

Andesite is described as a relatively pale rock with porphyritic texture.  It occurs in lava flows and stocks together with basalt, latite and trachyte.  It is the most important volcanic rock after basalt, with the distinction made according to the color index. In andesite the dark minerals make up less than 40 per cent by volume of the total rock whereas in basalt, the dark minerals exceed 40 per cent.

Andesite rock samples:





A ridge of Andesite lava flow:

andesite lava flow

NOTE ALSO: Reference to the use of  22-ton underground ore cars in groups of 14 !  The ones used at Kennecott & the  Kennecott Beatson-Girdwood Mines on LaTouche Island, Prince William Sound,  were 3 and 4 ton cars.

The Lost American sector at the Braden Mine, Sewell, Chile

Sewell had a very definable American sector. When it became clear that the Chilean government would be taking over the mine, the Americans began a mass exodus. To my knowledge, all the American compound homes were destroyed by the Chileans, possibly to erase the reminders of the historic American presence at the time of the very anti-American Marxist Allende regime. Prior to his ascent to power, Kennecott had already sold its majority interest to the Chilean government. Thus, its losses were somewhat minimized, compared to nearby Anaconda Copper, which had been investing heavily in its holdings at the time of the rise of Allende. 

company official home


American compound


American compound 2


American compound 3

The Guggenheim Copper Empire: Kennecott & the Braden Mine

The very same Equitable Building exists to this day at 120 Broadway, absent Kennecott. Here is a Google Street view of it.



new


The Guggenheim Empire:

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Guggenheim empire


Included the Alaska Syndicate (Kennecott, Beatson, Alaska Steamship, CRNW Railway, Northwestern Commercial); American Smelter & Refining (including the Tacoma smelter that refined all the Alaskan metals); Guggenex--the exploration company that included the Bingham Canyon, Utah, Braden, Chino, Ray and Nevada Northern Consolidated; and much more . . .   The Guggenex holdings and those of the Alaska Syndicate were for the most part picked up by the new Kennecott Copper Corporation in 1915.  Some of the holdings were not fully transferred until the 1930s. They were literally too much for even the backers of Kennecott to swallow all at once.



Sewel alone--the part of Braden Copper at the top of the mountain--was a wholly-owned company town of 16,000.



Sewel view 3


Above: The company town of Sewell in 1970, shortly before the government of Chile nationalized the company holdings. 
Below: The concentrator at Sewell:Look at the size of the mill compared to the housing complexes to the lower right and the right.



Braden view 2


Kennecott Corp HQ in NYC:

All the Kennecott Copper Corporation reports from its formation in 1915 through the closure of its Alaskan operations in 1938 show the main office as being at 120 Broadway, NYC:
As you can see from reading this part of the Braden Copper Company report, the purchase of that Chilean copper mine was huge. Who was behind this purchase ?  Where did the money come from ?





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Kennecott Copper Corp occupied this building at 120 Broadway from the time it was brand-new in 1915:




Upon its completion, the Equitable building was the largest (in total floor area) in the world. It rose as a single tower with the appearance of two separate identical towers standing side by side, connected by a wing for the whole height of the building, such that it appeared in the shape of the letter "H" when viewed from above. A striking feature of the building by modern standards is that it has no setback from the street beyond the depth of the sidewalk, rising vertically for all its floors.  (Wikipedia) 
 
This 40 story building casts a 7 acre shadow across the city, which caused public outrage when it was completed. As a result, New York City passed the 1916 Zoning Resolution which aimed at restricting the height and bulk of buildings and assuring the penetration of light and air to the streets below.
This structure was the last skyscraper to be constructed before building regulations were instituted in New York.
Built to replace the first Equitable Building which burned down in 1912.
Used by some 15,000 people daily, this was the world's largest office building at the time of completion.
The principal designer was Peirce Anderson.
Building features a subway entrance.
 
Businesses located at 120 Broadway:
American International Corp.     
The Corporation Trust Co.    
Empire Trust Co. Inc.    
Fidelity Trust Co.     
American Smelting & Refining Co.     
Armour & Co. (New York Office).     
Baldwin Locomotive Works     
Federal Mining & Smelting Co.     
General Electric Co.     
Kennecott Copper Corp.     
Metal & Thermit Corp.     
National Dairy Products Corp.     
Yukon Gold Co.     
Stone & Webster & Blodget, Inc.
 
Federal Reserve Board of New York
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Bernard Baruch
 
 The entities in red had a direct connection with the Guggenheim Brothers--major stockholders in the Kennecott Corporation at the time. There was probably a financial relationship with some of the others on the list, but I have not found it so far.  In any case, what we have here is an impressive array of Big Money and power of the type that would have been needed to pull off the kind of mining investments conducted by Kennecott.

Braden Mines, Sewell, Chile, Pt 2:

More on the Kennecott Copper Corporation investment in Chile from the 1915 annual report:
BRADEN COPPER MINES COMPANY:
On Dec 31, 1915, the Kennecott Copper Corporation owned 96.45 per cent of the outstanding stock and bonds of the Braden Copper Mines Company. The BCMC owns the entire outstanding stock and bonds of the Braden Copper Company, a Maine corporation operating in Chile.
The Braden Copper Company owns at Sewell, Chile (named after one of the two founders of the American-owned Braden Company) 174 claims equal to 2,362 acres, and at Rancagua for railroad terminals the Company owns about 16 acres.  At the present time it also has a concentrator with a capacity of 4,400 tons of ore per day, its own complete smelting plant, hydro-electric power plant, and a village for housing its employees.  The entire property is in the Province of O'Higgins, Chile.  The terminal of the mine's (NG --RS) railway at Rancagua is about 48 miles SE of Santiago.The narrow guage railroad depot at Sewell, ChileThe principal groups of mines are known as "Teniente," "Fortuna" and "Centinela"' ; they were discovered by Spaniards in the latter part of 1700 and originally operated by them; they were later owned and operated by Chilean natives.  The Braden Copper Company acquired the property from the Chileans in 1904 or 1905 and development work has been carried on at these properties up to the present.  The climate is very similar to that in the northern part of California. Labor conditions are good.  The Company owns its own (NG) railroad, running from Sewell to Rancagua, a distance of about 45 miles; at Rancagua it connects with the government-owned railway which runs to Valparaiso on the seacoast.




Sewel view 2


The narrow gauge railroad at Sewell, Chile
The ore in the mines is a concentrating copper ore in the form of sulphides of copper in a brecciated andesite; the ore bodies occur around the periphery of an extinct volcano.There was milled during the last quarter of 1915 382,553 tons of 2.16 % ore and the production was 11,236,470 pounds of copper at an average cost of 7.9 cents per pound, and estimated earnings from the sale of same amounted to $1,033,000. . . The ore in the mines is a concentrating copper ore in the form of sulphides of copper in a brecciated andesite; the ore bodies occur around Mr. Pope Yeatman, consulting engineer of the Braden Copper Company, estimated as of January 1, 1915, 113,694,880 tons of ore, with an assay value of 2.84 per cente., and allowing for dilution in mining he reduces this value to 2.5 per cent.  He estimates the value of the copper contents of the above tonnage, based on a 14-cent copper market, allowing an 80 % mill extraction, a 95 % smelter extraction and  6  1/2% cost of producing copper delivered to European markets as $324, 030,408, and the life of the mine, 32 years, based on above tonnage and with a plant having a capacity of 10,000 tons of ore per day.From the 1915 Kennecott Copper Corp annual report "for the period May 27, 1915 to Dec 31, 1915:On December 31, 1915, the Kennecott Copper Corporation owned 96.45 per cent of the outstanding stock and bonds of the Braden Copper Mines Company (note: formerly owned by the Guggenheim Brothers, major stock-holders in the newly-formed Kennecott Corp --RS).  The narrow gauge railroad depot at the Kennecott Corporation Braden Copper Mine, Sewell, Chile



Sewel View 3



The railroad depot at Sewell, Chile

Link to the Bob Haldeman Braden Copper interview


Q: "What if Kennecott had remained open during the war years?"

"The Bingham pit was developed by Daniel Cowan Jackling, the metallurgical engineer who pioneered the mass mining of low-grade ores from open pit mines. Jackling also used his revolutionary methods at mine locations in Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, all of which were eventually bought by Kennecott.
"Unlike many new companies, Kennecott made money every year in its early history. The company did not suffer its first operating loss until 1932, at the bottom of the Great Depression. World War I had created high demand for all metals, and when it ended, the copper industry found itself stuck in high gear, overproducing in the face of slowed demand. Kennecott was able to remain profitable mainly because production at the Alaskan site was among the cheapest in the industry, including extremely low labor costs.
"The trend among copper companies in the 1920s was toward vertical integration. Companies such as Anaconda and Phelps Dodge created their own fabricating operations in order to guarantee outlets for the products of their copper mines. Kennecott participated in this trend, but to a far lesser extent than did its main competitors. The company's only significant non-mining acquisitions during this period were the Chase Companies Inc. (which became Chase Brass and Copper Co.) in 1929, and American Electrical Works (changed to Kennecott Wire and Cable Co.) in 1935.
"In 1933, following Kennecott's first unprofitable year, Birch was succeeded as president and chairperson by E. T. Stannard, a director of J. P. Morgan and Company. Around that time, the market was beginning to show the effects of a new flood of copper from Rhodesia. Since Kennecott was set up as a high-production outfit, and also had to keep Chase Brass operating full tilt, cutting back production was not a practical strategy. Stannard instead sought out new markets. Although this policy made no significant gains, Kennecott was bailed out in the late 1930s, as was the copper industry in general, by greatly increased demand for copper in preparation for entry into World War II."
E.T. Stannard was Birch's protege at the original Kennecott site. E.T. Stannard was the company manager during some of the formative years there, also developing the unique ammonia leaching system that was ultimately employed at Kennecott to separate the copper carbonates from the dolomite limestone. Stannard was considered a brilliant engineer, but was not a particularly likable manager. Both Stannard and Jackling appear as Kennecott board members during the 1930s. 
One of the questions I get most often is "what if Kennecott had remained open during the war years?" Did it close too early?  In fact, the mine was largely exhausted of its copper ore reserves by 1938.  It was not in a position to provide copper during WWII.  Similarly, the Beatson and Girdwood mines on Latouche Island,  Prince William Sound, were exhausted in 1930 when they were shut down for good.  




Kennecott leaching plant

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Kennecott Corp first annual report for 1915 shows Braden Mine:

I have copies, or in some cases, original Kennecott Corporation annual reports, from the beginning in 1915 until 1938 when the Alaskan operations were finally closed--all except for Alaska Steamship Company.  Here is the 1915 one--the first--showing the initial acquisition of the Kennecott interior properties, the Copper River & Northwestern Railway, Alaska Steamship, Beatson Mines and Braden Copper, plus acquisition of shares in Utah Copper--owner and operator of the Bingham Canyon Mine (pages 6 & 7--click for larger version). This marked the beginning of the mightiest copper corporation of the 20th century.  And it all started with that ONE location up the Chitina River along the Kennicott Glacier--named after Robert Kennicott, a naturalist who explored a part of Alaska for the United States upon purchase of Alaska from Russia in 1867. Robert Kennicott never saw the Kennicott Glacier, which became the inspiration for the name of the new corporation whose start can be traced to a deal made between a group of a dozen prospectors and Nicolai of Taral--that Ahtna Indian chief who was born the same year that Alaska became an American territory. It was those prospectors headed by a man named McClellan who eventually sold their interests in the claims along Bonanza Ridge to Stephen Birch. It was Stephen Birch who put together the investors, including the Guggenheim Brothers, JP Morgan, Kuhn Loeb Brothers and Stephen's original backer H.O. Havemeyer, who then proceeded to fund the CRNW Railway and the Bonanza Mine that would ultimately bear the name "Kennecott," marking the early beginning of Kennecott Corporation. Kennecott would prove to be one of the best run corporations of its type in the entire world. It has never ceased to amaze me the acquisitions the corporation made that at least on the surface appeared to be incredibly lucky but which could only have been accomplished through incredible skill on the part of Birch and others, whose decisions to purchase these properties quickly catapulted the early  investors in that corporation into richness well beyond the dreams of many even to this day. Even if one is to only look at the original Alaskan operations, Kennecott somehow found two copper formations that historically have never seen an equal in Alaska.  Those two copper mines together produced more mineral value than the richest of the Alaskan gold districts--ANY of them, including the Nome, Fairbanks or Juneau districts, or even the Klondike gold of the adjacent Yukon Territory.  Then there was the Utah Copper Bingham Canyon mine which has been operating almost non-stop for more than a century, and the Braden Mine of Chile--the single richest copper mine ever found which to this day supplies about 20 per cent or more of the world's copper. It is quite a story.


(CLICK ON IMAGES TO VIEW REPORTS :)



annual report 1916







annual report pt 2


The Kennecott Corporation in Chile: Braden Mine, Sewel, Chile

You are looking at a photo of the El Teniente, still an active copper mine. Originally known as the Braden Mine when this site was under control of Kennecott Corporation, this is now the deepest underground copper mine in the world.     
 Sewel is a ghost town now, but it is also a World Heritage site. Picture taken about 1938 when it was still Kennecott.



Braden Mine: Sewel, Chile


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24 May 2010

Copper Rail Depot model RR update

Sunday I reworked the approach to the wye on the far-west end of the outdoor model RR layout. The entire approach had to be redone because the slope too steep and some rolling stock was uncoupling at the top of the slope.

This was very difficult and frustrating work, requiring the cutting out of overhead supports (there is a walkway immediate above part of the sloped rail line that is within 1 foot to 1 1/2 feet of it) to accommodate the height of the train because I had to raise part of the slope, bringing it too close at two points to the walkway above. This was successfully accomplished. The new main east-west approach to the wye is now complete.


The wye base when it was still under construction in 2006: On the left is the base for
the east-west approach. This had to be readjusted to accommodate the larger trains that
now operate on this model railroad.